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First image of a black hole

Interview with Sera Markoff on the first image of a black hole

On April 10th 2019, the Event Horizon Telescope (EHT) Collaboration presented its first results – an image of the supermassive black hole in galaxy M87 – in multiple simultaneous press conferences around the world, see also here in the APPEC news. Sera Markoff is working on EHT and also on CTA. In this interview she tells us about the exciting times with EHT and the connection to multimessenger astroparticle physics.

Sera, you are enjoying the well-deserved success for the wonderful result on the first image of a black hole in the centre of the M87 galaxy. What is that impressed you most about this success story?

First image of black hole in galaxy M87, credits: Event Horizon Telescope

I think the reaction of the world to our result was not something we had fully anticipated. Gravitational waves were also a ground-breaking result but I don’t think they made it quite so far particularly in social media, because it was maybe a bit too abstract for many members of the public. The image triggered a lot of hilarious posts and memes, which I think is a very positive sign that the world wanted to claim a sort of ownership of the result, and make it relevant to their lives in some way.

What are the next targets and steps?

We still have an enormous amount of data from 2017 and 2018 to analyze, from both the horizon targets (M87 and Sgr A*) as well as many other jetted AGN, some of which were also calibrators for the horizon sources so we have lots of hours on them. These include for instance 3C279, OJ287, and quite a few more. The data analysis and image reconstruction is very tricky particularly for variable sources like Sgr A* so the collaboration are working hard, and one can expect much more science to come. We have also proposed for observations again in 2020, so encourage multi-wavelength facilities to coordinate with us then!

What will be the kind of targets for which you will attempt the reconstruction of the inner jets?

As I mentioned above, these are mostly radio galaxies for obvious reasons, we want sources with well studied jets from other wavelengths particularly with VLBI so we can add another piece at the highest resolution, closest to the core.

You are also working in CTA, hence could you highlight possible connections between the EHT work and the astroparticle community working on multi-messengers high energy astrophysics? What do you expect that can be done in synergy ?

Well EHT is not its own instrument, we use existing facilities during about 10-12 days per year in this special mode. So it’s hard to say whether EHT will exist in its current form when CTA is open for business, but we certainly hope so. We are already adding new elements to the array since 2017, and hopefully will be able to go to higher frequency soon as well. The systems we are studying, with the exception of Sgr A*, all show powerful jets and are high-energy emitters, but we still do not fully understand how these jets are launched, or their internal properties, and there is of course significant debate about the origin of the VHE gamma-ray emitting particles. Where particle acceleration happens exactly, and via which process (e.g., diffusive shock acceleration vs magnetic reconnection) is something one might be able to resolve, if there happened to be a VHE flare during an EHT observation and we could actually resolve associated structural changes in the jet with EHT. I think that is the ‘holy grail’ we would all like to see. We are already observing together with existing VHE facilities like H.E.S.S., MAGIC and Veritas, so this may even happen before CTA and then the work could continue even deeper once we have the much better spatial resolution in the VHE range that CTA offers.


Sera Markoff is a professor of theoretical high energy astrophysics at the University of Amsterdam. Her research focuses on the interface between astrophysics and particle physics, in particular problems relating to processes occurring around dense objects such as black holes. She is a member of a number of large scale research projects including Cherenkov Telescope Array and Event Horizon Telescope, which produced the first image of a black hole. She is a member of the leadership of the Event Horizon Telescope project where she serves as a member of the science council and as one of the working group coordinators.

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Sera Markoff, photographer: Dirk Gillissen

Sera Markoff is a professor of theoretical high energy astrophysics at the University of Amsterdam. Her research focuses on the interface between astrophysics and particle physics, in particular problems relating to processes occurring around dense objects such as black holes. She is a member of a number of large scale research projects including Cherenkov Telescope Array and Event Horizon Telescope, which produced the first image of a black hole. She is a member of the leadership of the Event Horizon Telescope project where she serves as a member of the science council and as one of the working group coordinators.

NEXT step to neutrino mass

Interview with Juan José Gómez Cadenas about the NEXT experiment

Recently, a committee working on neutrino less double beta decay, composed by Silvia Pascoli (Chair, Durham U.), Andrea Giuliani (CSNSM), Juan Jose Gomez-Cadenas (DIPC), Ezio Previtali (INFN, MI) Ruben Saakyan (UCL), Karoline Schaeffner (GSSI), Stefan Schoenert (TUM), was set in place in order do define a document describing the efforts towards a new generation of more sensitive detectors than the current existing, which will include a SWOT analysis and a critical evaluation of resources and possible schedules. This document, to be approved in the Scientific Committee of APPEC, will set the guidelines for funding agencies in the General Assembly to understand expected sensitivity of various technologies and scientific goals and reach of various techniques. A great effort is ongoing and one of them recently obtained an experimental success. Juan Jose Cadenas explains more on it.

What is your technical achievement and how does it compare to past existing ones?

NEXT is a high pressure xenon chamber with electroluminescent readout (HPXeEL). It exploits three features of gaseous xenon which are essential to suppress backgrounds in neutrino less double beta decay searches (ββ0ν): excellent energy resolution; the capability of reconstructing the event topology; the capability of identifying the Ba++ ion produced in the ββ0ν decay. The first phase of the experiment, the so-called NEXT-White detector, deploying 10 kg of xenon is currently operating at the Laboratorio Subterráneo de Canfranc (LSC), and the second phase, NEXT-100, with 100 kg of xenon is currently being assembled, with the plan of commissioning in 2020. We are also preparing a Conceptual Design Report (CDR) for a ton-scale detector.

With respect to the pioneer St. Gotthard TPC experiment, which operated at the St. Gotthard tunnel in the mid 1990’s, NEXT introduces two main innovations. The first one is the electroluminescent proportional amplification of the signal (EL), which results in a (measured) energy resolution of 0.5 % FWHM at Qbb (for point-like particles), and better than 1 % FWHM for long tracks (to be compared with 7 % FWHM at Qbb achieved by the St. Gotthard TPC). NEXT is currently the only high-resolution xenon experiment searching for ββ0ν. Furthermore, it is possible to operate NEXT with pure xenon, since no quenching of the ionisation is needed (as was the case for the St. Gotthard TPC), and therefore the scintillation signal is preserved, providing the start-of-the-event and thus the needed fiducialization in Z.

Furthermore, the NEXT collaboration has recently published a proof-of-concept that shows the possibility to capture and identify the Ba++ ion produced in the ββ0ν decay using the so-called SMFI (Single Molecule Fluorescence Imaging) technique. SMFI was invented by physicists and then applied with great success to biological problems. In 2015, Dave Nygren, co-spokesperson of NEXT proposed to use SMFI to tag the presence of the Ba++ ion. In 2017 we published a PRL showing that it is possible to follow the trajectory of single fluorescent molecules chelated with a Ba++ ion, thus opening up the possibility of developing such detection system in NEXT.

Last but not least, NEXT has been developed through a set of carefully planned stages, involving 1-10-100 kg detectors, in order to master the technical details which will allow the extrapolation of the technology to ton-scale detectors.

What is the relevance of your measurements on enriched Xe and what measurements will be particularly improved thanks to it?

Our current run with enriched xenon has two goals. We aim to measure the ββ2ν mode lifetime, which in addition to provide another measurement of this important quantity (there are previous measurements by KamLAND-Zen and EXO), will allow us to quantify with great detail the rejection power of the topological signature. Furthermore, the enriched xenon run will allow us a full characterization of the background budget of the detector.

What is the impact this will have in NEXT and neutrinoless double beta decay?

NEXT is the only high-energy resolution experiment based in xenon. Furthermore, the identification of the two electrons results in a very low background rate in the region of interest (ROI). If we can implement Ba++ tagging, NEXT could evolve into a truly background-free experiment. This is a must to explore very long lifetimes, and thus exploring the inverse and eventually the normal hierarchy.

Are underground laboratories in Europe a great resource and how do you see that they will evolve in next years?

Yes, they are, and Europe science is benefiting immensely from these facilities, with leading experiments in ββ0ν, dark matter and other underground physics areas. I would like to see European underground labs evolving toward a tight network that would permit an intense cooperation in underground science in Europe. Indeed, I believe that this network can be expanded at the truly international level. In the case of NEXT one could very well imagine that such underground lab network would permit the operation of several modules in the range of 500–1000 kg at LSC and LNGS, and possibly in SNOWLAB. It is important to remark that our experiments are run by international collaborations, and the creation of an international network of laboratories could permit far-ahead planning and optimisation of resources. As we are moving into very large and complex apparatus in rare searches, this international network of labs appears essential.


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Juan José Gómez Cadenas at the LSC, with the detector in the background

Juan José Gómez Cadenas is an Ikerbasque professor of physics at the Donostia International Physics Center. He has worked in neutrino physics for the last 25 years, contributing to experiments such as NOMAD, K2K and T2K. In 2008 he proposed the NEXT experiment to the LSC. He is the co-spokesperson of NEXT, together with Dave Nygren, inventor of the Time Projection Chamber.